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		<title>By: Mere Rhetoric</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2271</link>
		<dc:creator>Mere Rhetoric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watchers Council Nominations - Power Grabs Defended By Rank Populism Defended By Incoherent Nonsense...&lt;/strong&gt;

 There&#039;s a very long post to be written about the erosion of the public sphere - cultural, journalistic, academic, and democratic - under the Obama administration. The populist rush to embrace Obama - driven by rhetoric of &quot;unity&quot; -......</description>
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<p> There&#8217;s a very long post to be written about the erosion of the public sphere &#8211; cultural, journalistic, academic, and democratic &#8211; under the Obama administration. The populist rush to embrace Obama &#8211; driven by rhetoric of &#8220;unity&#8221; -&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2257</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council Results...&lt;/strong&gt;

Winning Council Submissions First place with 1 2/3 points! - Mere Rhetoric - NJDC Tool Aaron Keyak Helpfully Illustrates How Liberal Activists Sneeringly Cocoon Themselves In Asinine Arguments And Dishonest Smears Second place with 1 1/3 points - (T*) ...</description>
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<p>Winning Council Submissions First place with 1 2/3 points! &#8211; Mere Rhetoric &#8211; NJDC Tool Aaron Keyak Helpfully Illustrates How Liberal Activists Sneeringly Cocoon Themselves In Asinine Arguments And Dishonest Smears Second place with 1 1/3 points &#8211; (T*) &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Council speak 02/03/09...&lt;/strong&gt;

 The council has spoken. The winning entry was Mere Rhetoric&#039;s NJDC Tool Aaron Keyak Helpfully Illustrates How Liberal Activists Sneeringly Cocoon Themselves In Asinine Arguments And Dishonest Smears, a critique of the arguments employed by the NJDC t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Council speak 02/03/09&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> The council has spoken. The winning entry was Mere Rhetoric&#8217;s NJDC Tool Aaron Keyak Helpfully Illustrates How Liberal Activists Sneeringly Cocoon Themselves In Asinine Arguments And Dishonest Smears, a critique of the arguments employed by the NJDC t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt; You still reject the notion that mistakes were made in going to war with Iraq.&lt;/b&gt;
We reject the notion that it is valid to betray your country for partisan gain through leaking national security documents, helping our enemy in the propaganda war, and sabotaging your own President&#039;s policies.
 
&lt;B&gt;Thoughtful analysis requires an acceptance of certain facts&lt;/b&gt;
We are not going to accept Leftist manufactured facts, because you can&#039;t make us. You have not the guns nor the powers of reason, even though you certainly have the will to get it done.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;B&gt; You still reject the notion that mistakes were made in going to war with Iraq.&lt;/b&gt;<br />
We reject the notion that it is valid to betray your country for partisan gain through leaking national security documents, helping our enemy in the propaganda war, and sabotaging your own President&#8217;s policies.<br />
 <br />
&lt;B&gt;Thoughtful analysis requires an acceptance of certain facts&lt;/b&gt;<br />
We are not going to accept Leftist manufactured facts, because you can&#8217;t make us. You have not the guns nor the powers of reason, even though you certainly have the will to get it done.<br />
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2212</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] went to The Provocateur for &#8220;The Shadow Government of the Obama Administration&#8221; and Cheat-Seeking Missiles for &#8220;What, Indeed, Did We [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; The Weasely Agenda of the Progessive Ignorati</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2205</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; The Weasely Agenda of the Progessive Ignorati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Second place with 1 1/3 points - (T*) - Cheat-Seeking Missiles - What, Indeed, Did We Win? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Laer</title>
		<link>http://www.cheatseekingmissiles.com/2009/01/26/what-indeed-did-we-win/comment-page-1/#comment-2197</link>
		<dc:creator>Laer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I never rejected the notion that mistakes were made; wherever did you get that idea? It&#039;s a war; of course mistakes are made.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, Iraq did not attack us on 9/11. Neither did Germany on 12/7.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, there was an active weapons program when we invaded.  It was used to shoot at UN sanctioned overflight planes, to fund or reward terror, to kill Iraqis by the thousands.  The more important point is that the global intelligence community all THOUGHT there was a weapons program and Hussein BEHAVED as if there was one, kicking out UN inspectors, etc. And the American left BELIEVED he had weapons - remember all the leftist yammering about the tens of thousands of US soldiers that would die from his WMDs if we attacked?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How do we finance any war?  How did FDR finance WWI?  Truman Korea? Johnson Vietnam?  Debt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Soldiers killed and injured - about equivalent to one week in WWII.  A tragedy, but it shows how adept and overpowering our military has become.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democracy?  Of course Iraqis asked for democracy!  Don&#039;t you remember what happened after Gulf War I?  A more important question is, do Iraqis like Democracy?  Remember the excitement of the first vote? Recall that they&#039;re voting this week?  More than 14,000 candidates running for 440 seats on 14 of Iraq&#039;s 18 provincial councils. In Baghdad alone, more than 100 parties, with 2,455 candidates, are running. I&#039;d say they&#039;re digging democracy big time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, they&#039;ve asked us to leave.  And under Bush (not Obama) we started the process.  Do you follow the other leftidiots and call America an imperialistic power?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s like reasoning with a brick wall ...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never rejected the notion that mistakes were made; wherever did you get that idea? It&#8217;s a war; of course mistakes are made.</p>
<p>No, Iraq did not attack us on 9/11. Neither did Germany on 12/7.</p>
<p>Yes, there was an active weapons program when we invaded.  It was used to shoot at UN sanctioned overflight planes, to fund or reward terror, to kill Iraqis by the thousands.  The more important point is that the global intelligence community all THOUGHT there was a weapons program and Hussein BEHAVED as if there was one, kicking out UN inspectors, etc. And the American left BELIEVED he had weapons &#8211; remember all the leftist yammering about the tens of thousands of US soldiers that would die from his WMDs if we attacked?</p>
<p>How do we finance any war?  How did FDR finance WWI?  Truman Korea? Johnson Vietnam?  Debt.</p>
<p>Soldiers killed and injured &#8211; about equivalent to one week in WWII.  A tragedy, but it shows how adept and overpowering our military has become.</p>
<p>Democracy?  Of course Iraqis asked for democracy!  Don&#8217;t you remember what happened after Gulf War I?  A more important question is, do Iraqis like Democracy?  Remember the excitement of the first vote? Recall that they&#8217;re voting this week?  More than 14,000 candidates running for 440 seats on 14 of Iraq&#8217;s 18 provincial councils. In Baghdad alone, more than 100 parties, with 2,455 candidates, are running. I&#8217;d say they&#8217;re digging democracy big time.</p>
<p>Yes, they&#8217;ve asked us to leave.  And under Bush (not Obama) we started the process.  Do you follow the other leftidiots and call America an imperialistic power?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like reasoning with a brick wall &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cheat Seeking Missiles &#187; Al-Oufi Proves It: Libs Are Fools</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheat Seeking Missiles &#187; Al-Oufi Proves It: Libs Are Fools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Abu that Seton Hall prof and detainee defender Mark Denbeaux  and his fellow asylum inmates saw, in Abu&#8217;s own words: &#8220;I was on my way to Quetta, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Chmielewski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Chmielewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughtful analysis requires an acceptance of certain facts.  You still reject the notion that mistakes were made in going to war with Iraq.  Please point out where I was wrong in any of those factual statements.  Did Iraq attack us on 9/11?Was there an active weapons program when we invaded?How did we finance this war?How many soliders died and how manmy injured?Did Iraqis want a democracy?Have they asked us to leave?I&#039;m stick of bumper stickers too; the ones still on cars on OC with W &#039;04 and &quot;Drill Baby Drill&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughtful analysis requires an acceptance of certain facts.  You still reject the notion that mistakes were made in going to war with Iraq.  Please point out where I was wrong in any of those factual statements.  Did Iraq attack us on 9/11?Was there an active weapons program when we invaded?How did we finance this war?How many soliders died and how manmy injured?Did Iraqis want a democracy?Have they asked us to leave?I&#8217;m stick of bumper stickers too; the ones still on cars on OC with W &#8217;04 and &#8220;Drill Baby Drill&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Train Wreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Train Wreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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