Comments on: “Privacy Hawk” Leftists Raid Palin Emails

By: Quantanephilim

Quantanephilim — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:49:03 +0000

Ymar:

Yes, but if the consequences only build sympathy for Palin… then it was to the net benefit of the Republicans, right?

So how do we know these hackers weren’t trying to benefit the GOP?

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:14:23 +0000

The Russians would have called that demoralization. Where people’s first instinct is not to defend the innocent and the just against the unjust and the cruel. No, people’s first instincts becomes spread the blame around or blame ourselves or something like that.

It doesn’t even matter what the hacker’s political affiliations are. If terrorists blow up a building and Democrats profit from it by direct action and support, it doesn’t matter who the terrorists thought they were benefiting or not.

The consequences are irrespective of intent and the consequences of the Democrat’s own actions on Sarah Palin are independent of the intentions of any hacker.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:12:16 +0000

This is like saying, the US Marine Corps commits atrocities just like Al Qaeda does.
Let’s forget about the fact that one does it as policy and the other avoids it and punishes the offenders. It’s avoid the fact that the Marine Corps have a 0 score for atrocities while AQ has them in the three or four digit range.

Let’s forget all that and recognize that both sides are equally capable of doing such things.

By: Quantanephilim

Quantanephilim — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:27:52 +0000

Just because he wanted to derail her campaign doesn’t mean he’s a Democrat. If I was an anarchist, I’d be hoping Obama gets elected- not because I want Obama to be my president, but because I’d like to see the destabilizing effect that his assassination will have on the country.

That is, if I was an anarchist, which I’m not. But I understand their mindset. They’re not big on statists.

By: Laer

Laer — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:43:43 +0000

Thanks, Zee. As far as I was concerned, the argument was settled – but proof is a nice thing.

By: Zee

Zee — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:38:56 +0000

Doesn't sound to me as if the hacker was apolitical. From the hacker's mouth, as quoted by Michelle Malkin (bold mine) "Hello, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.[...]I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family[...]Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be...."

By: Quantanephilim

Quantanephilim — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:47:36 +0000

“Anarchists have more in common with the left-leaning Dems than the GOP, even if they aren’t in the party.”

They have more in common with a bunch of statists than a bunch of libertarians? As a libertarian-Republican, I think I have much more in common with anarchists than with socialists.

By: Laer

Laer — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:21:37 +0000

Hackers – except for those who hack to steal – are anarchists. Anarchists have more in common with the left-leaning Dems than the GOP, even if they aren’t in the party. And again, the glee of the Left in sharing this stolen privacy is disgustingly hypocritical given all their angst over privacy.

By: Quantanephilim

Quantanephilim — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:35:31 +0000

Laer:

I’ve known an awful lot of Republican hackers & anarchists in my time. They’re not mainstream, but they hate Dems, and they would gladly do the same.

I think countxero is right- these are anarchist trolls. I know these people, and they don’t care about politics, they only care about chaos- they’d just as gladly do this to Obama or Biden- Palin was just much, much more vulnerable given her previous low-profile.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:36:26 +0000

They have no principles, Laer. Stop even pretending that they do.

What they have is a goal and anyone standing in their way will be destroyed. But that’s what warfare is for. When social contracts and solutions break down, we break out what actually works to resolve things.